Well either way, they won't be gods of their own planets...
Captain Obvious
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Marriage In The New World
by Cold Steel inokay, here's the issue.
some people, even some jws, believe that in the new world they will be reunited with their spouses.
jesus, however, said that in the resurrection there would be no marriage or giving in marriage.
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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......
by DATA-DOG injust answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.
if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.
any active jw may answer this question.
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Captain Obvious
SFPW is usually quick to jump in with his ignorant crap... At least he is polite enough to let you know that he saw your thread, but it puts him at unease.
Im really curious to see what he has to say. He more just stats opinions and hate, not much intelligent debate with this fellow.
Remember Recovery? Of course. At least he was able to have an in depth discussion. His arrogance was an issue, but at least he was better read than the average JW. This fool is just like the rest. 90% of posters here know more than ANY JW About their own religion... That's why they're here.
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Captain Obvious
Fantastic.
Every follower of Abraham (Jew, Christian, Muslim... Same thing) should give this serious thought.
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New Understanding of this Generation
by pronomono inanother tidbit of information about this generation from the 1/15/2014 study edition under "let your kingdom come - but when?".
they've changed it again.. this generation will not pass away14-16.
what is a third reason for believing that gods kingdom will come soon?.
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Captain Obvious
It's a convenient way to curb the climbing number of partakers at the memorial! Clever...
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No more by us!
by Atlantis inno more boes or kingdom ministries will be posted by us on this board.
there is a very important reason why!
beware of anyone encouraging you to post any boes on this board.
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Captain Obvious
Thank you, Atlantis for posting secret WT info on here in the past. It has been a huge help to be able to have access to what only the most brainwashed Dubs have.
I hope it isn't causing you any issues, will check out your site.
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Let's make a list of the families ruined by the Watchtower
by Faithful Witness inthe jehovah's witnesses came to our door, claiming to hold the secrets of family happiness.
they told me they had the "one true religion," and had come to save my life.
i was a bible student for quite awhile, along with my husband.
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Captain Obvious
My family and family-in-law are all JWs. My mother is currently DFed for the second time, and shuns me even though I have told her not to because "it's jehovahs arrangement."
One day I too will likely be DF'd, and shunned by all. My only hope is that my wife sees the light before then and comes with me. It's a terrible situation that only a cult would put someone into. My long-term goal is to have a happy, religion free family So that future generations of my family are free to love and accept each other without human-imposed conditions.
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Bibles, What bibles ??
by Tech49 inso....... captain obvious asks........where are the placement bibles then?.
we have the newly massaged, repainted, sister-proof nwt (with its errors .
but the larger question remains..... if this is an organization that is here to spread the good news from the holy scriptures, why is it that all the rolly carts and literature counters are chock full of bible teach books, but not one bible can be found?.
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Captain Obvious
I said no such thing! Lol
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Crap....help please
by DS211 inso tonight my wife looked iver the wt for tomorrow.
she said what she got out of it was that apostates are negative murmurers who can cause you to question jehovah and his earthly org and that it reminded her of the negativity caused when i told her i read ray franz's book.
she said it caused me to question service, family worship night, and praying together.
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Captain Obvious
Well we apostates can be pretty negative. Do just enough to keep it from becoming a sore subject. play the long game my friend
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I will give my husband the divorce he wants
by losingit innot because i agree with him.
because i do not want the divorce.
but because i love him and i want to respect him.
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Captain Obvious
How are you supposed to get the respect you want if you're a pushover? Rolling over and playing dead won't solve anything. Don't forget people usually project themselves onto the people around them. Whatever he is complaining about with you, is probably a fault of his. If he has been abusive in any way, he NEEDS to understand this. You two may not be a great pair but just giving up will only make the cycle repeat itself with your next partners.
You can't change him, you can only change yourself. Do things for yourself, be more independent. Buy yourself something nice, hire a personal trainer. Be your own woman, one who doesn't take his shit and will NOT put up with any kind of abuse, not for a second. He will have no choice but to respect and admire you. Don't do it for him, do it for yourself. If after some time of this things don't improve, then you can walk away from the marriage knowing there was nothing more you could do. Also you'll be walking away as a more attractive, more interesting you.
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More on the 5go outer ...........not
by 5go innot really this topic is for my mom that is suffering now please give some experiances of finding out everything (ttatt) or about relatives wanting to leave.
she apparently is lurking here reading my posts.
she is suffering horribly and needs the comfort badly..
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Captain Obvious
It can be tough for a parent or family member to find out that one of their loved ones wants to leave the org. They likely won't understand, or even want to understand. In the JW mindset the only right answer is the JW answer. The only truth is the JW truth from the slave. This summer we had an entire convention dedicated to truth, which didn't contain a single word about how to actually find the truth in any given matter. Nothing about searching out information from all sources and viewpoints, considering them all objectively in light of presently known facts and information. The general message was, 'if it's from the watchtower or the bible , it's true. If not, it's Not true. If it disagrees in any way with the watchtower or the bible , it is automatically a lie from satan. How are people supposed to make honest decisions with this mindset?
I can't imagine your mother's pain right now but the fact that she is on here reading yours and others' posts is important. Hopefully she is able to see the fact that you're not a bad person, mislead by the devil. That, and the fact that you've been here since 2006. That's a long time to wake up and remain "in."
To 5go's mom: welcome to our forum, you will find all types here, all sharing one thing in common. We after a long, objective consideration of our beliefs, the bible, history and the world we live in have all come to the conclusion that this org. Does not have 'The Truth,' it never did. You will find some to be bitter, spiteful. Please remember that these people have been hurt badly by this org. And it's teachings and policies. Some lives have been ruined, families torn apart, loved ones lost because they would not have a simple blood transfusion. The list goes on and on. The knowledge that you have been lied to your whole life is painful.
For many, learning that the org's policies directly serve to protect its name over the safety of children from pedophiles, or the fact that they were a manner of the UN for 11 years, or that Jerusalem wasn't destroyed in 607 but 587 BCE is a big shock. It also makes it tough to support such a group. Personally, finally accepting that the org. was wrong about 607 and therefore 1914,1918,1919 etc. was the last straw for me. Never another day knocking on doors, preaching what I knew to be lies.
Hopefully this religion doesn't tear your family apart like it has mine and thousands of others.